We plan to deliver a lot more exclusive content such as interviews and guest mixes in 2016 and now we are proud to present to you an interview we did with a russian duo that managed to conquer the love of one of the biggest labels in the D&B right now – Viper Recordings. We are talking about Vladimir Vorobyev and Dmitry Dadushin, known as Cynematic, who made a lot of noise with their debut release “Space City / Daytona” back in 2014. They’ve delivered some more top-quality mainstream tracks since that time, but as you will find out from this interview – it will get much more exciting in 2016. So far all people knew about them was their incredible music, but we decided that it’s time to get to know the guys themselves and ask them as much questions as possible, which resulted in this massive in-depth interview, followed by a guest mix. We hope you have a good read and make sure to follow Cynematic on Facebook, Soundcloud and Twitter.
The original russian version of this interview is available here.
Hey there, guys. Thanks for letting us do this interview. People still don’t know much about you, so it’d be nice if you introduce yourselves.
Vladimir: I’ve got an office job, has to do with information security. Mostly I’m writing during weekend or after I am done with my work. I’ve got other music projects, do OSTs for games or motivational tracks. Got a loving girl, she is also a creative person, who does a great job when it comes to inspiring me and giving me ideas. Recently tried learning web-design and love to do some work-outs at the gym, when I’ve got free time.
Dmitry: I was studying in a typical school and then graduated from an economic university (without much enthusiasm). My parents had high hopes about me becoming a bank clerk with a good salary. I used to study and work at the same time as I had to pay the tuition all by myself. I had a hard time keeping with my studies and left my job as a result.
When I finally graduated from my university I decided that I don’t want to end up working as a clerk as well as work in the area of expertize that was written on my diploma and got a job in logistics. There I had some leadership experience and I guess it will definitely come in handy in the future. As of now, my job is directly connected to music production. I was really lucky to get contacted by people who were interested in my EDM production skills. I just help people to save their time and fulfill all of their musical needs. It mostly has to do with house music, but sometimes there are projects, when you need to produce something more global. For example, I made music for one big project by the famous russian phone company Megafon.
I’ve became a married man recently! It really makes me happy, I love my wife, she’s amazing and we are waiting for a baby.
Do you guys have any kind of musical education?
Dmitry: No, unfortunately. But I have a really strong will to expand my knowledge on a daily basis and I do it with great pleasure. I soak up tons of information on production techniques, sound design and can spend hours watching or reading some tutorials. Basically, it’s my hobby, apart from the actual process of writing electronic music. Learning is the eye of mind, as they say.
Vladimir: I’ve been thinking about taking some musical notation courses or piano lessons for a while now, but my laziness takes over. I don’t watch video tutorials all that often, but I do watch big mastering tutorials every now and then. Most of the times Dima serves as a good source of production knowledge.
It has been a while since you have become a part of Viper Recordings. What kind of impact on your life it had so far?
Dmitry: I can’t say there have been incredible changes, it’s not like we are booked every other day, but the plans are huge! To be honest, it’s so pleasant to know, that your music has won the heart of one of the biggest labels on the scene. There was that moment when we two decided that we really want to accomplish something big. We thought about it for a bit, made a plan and started to work. And it took us two months to get there. Paul InsideInfo has really helped us at the time, we really appreciate his support.
We love the way Viper treat us. We have a manager, who always keeps our progress in check and reminds us to finish the tunes and demos we’ve sent, etc. Right now we’ve got a plenty of work to do and after that we can finally start touring.
What Viper gave us? They’ve introduced us to a lot of great people on the scene and did a really good job of sharing our music with the whole world. We’d really love to visit London, Tokyo and many other cities when we’ll be touring.
We are really good friends with Futurebound, chat weekly with our manager Asad and talk with the old fellow Tim Viper. The financial part of the job is discussed with Helen, Futurebound’s wife.
Vladimir: Yeah, Viper introduced us to a lot of other producers, including some really big names and it was cool to hear some good feedback on our music from them.
Why did Viper Recordings become a label of your choice? We’d really love to hear, how you started working with them.
Vladimir: We were aiming at big labels, the bar has been set really high right from the beginning. We used to find a way how to contact the labels through Facebook and AOL and tried to send them our tunes. After 2 or 3 weeks of sending demos, we got a reply from InsideInfo. He said that Futurebound was into our tune City Space and wanted us to get in touch with him.
But why it was InsideInfo telling you this, not Futurebound himself?
Dmitry: Well, at first we’ve been sending the tunes the classic way – using the label demoboxes, submitting tracks on their websites and so on. But we were unwilling to wait and started to send the tracks directly to producers on Facebook. By doing so, we’ve received some good feedback by Brookes Brothers, Culture Shock, InsideInfo and others.
How did the duo name “Cynematic” appear?
Vladimir: We are fans of sound effects in music and that influenced the name. We had lots of variants to choose from and it took us two weeks to decide that Cynematic is the one we’ll stick to.
Do you have a certain approach when it comes to your production process?
Vladimir: It’s rather ordinary. Sometimes one of us can make a demo and then we get together, sort out the material and finish the ones we like. Alternatively, we start a track together right from the beginning.
In a lot of duos we see that one guy is better at writing the melodic part of the track, while the other one excels in doing the harder bits of the track. DC Breaks serve as a great example. Can you say the same about yourself?
Dmitry: Yeah, I think so. I’m that “melodic” guy in our team, especially when it comes to writing melodies between the drops as well as for the intros. I’m also a great fan of 80s synths, so I always make sure to put some of those. Most of the times Vova makes a demo and then I’m starting to polish it, but sometimes one of us can write the whole track and the other one is doing all the mixing and mastering. We always experiment with our production approach in order to find that ideal formula. It becomes harder to find time. We used to finish 2 or 3 tunes per month, but now it’s much slower, unfortunately.
Who got you into Drum & Bass music?
Vladimir: The first time I’ve heard electronic music was around 1998. It was a eurotrance compilation like Klubbheads and there were some places here and there in Moscow where it was possible to buy CDs like this and we used to stop by them really often. It was 2000 when we went to a radio market and told one guy “Mate, we’re really into electronic music, it’s incredible! Can you show us something new? Something, that will completely blow our minds?”. And then it was just like in that legendary scene from Human Traffic – he pulls out a CD with DJ Dara compilation, turns up the volume and man, it was a blast! We didn’t even what genre that was, but we really loved it.
Dmitry: I guess I got into D&B in 2001. Everyone (including me) was going crazy about The Prodigy, Linkin Park… there was also some cool band named Antiloop. Some other day my school pal brought a jungle CD and that was the first time when I heard amen breaks in a tune an overwhelming bass or a wobble bass. I was in ruptures! Then I was rummaging in music shops trying to find some more of that goodness and started to delve deeper in the Drum & Bass world. But if we are talking about D&B, not jungle, it all started with Dieselboy.
How did you meet each other and started writing music together?
Vladimir: We met on a local party back in 2002 in Zelenograd. We both were DJing and started to think about producing tracks together, the first attempt was after 2 or 3 months.
We’d love to know more about your musical preferences. Which drum and bass artists do you love most at the moment? Which genres do you listen besides dnb?
Dmitry: Speaking of D&B, I really dig Metrik, Culture Shock, Dimension, Kove, Matrix & Futurebound, Smooth (he’s not releasing much these days, but when he does, it’s always top notch), Cyantific, Friction, Mind Vortex, Andy C and Teddy Killerz. Guys from OneByOne put out something good all the time and Gydra make some heavy tunes, though not every tune is a masterpiece. Rockwell, Chords, Wilkinson, Calyx & Teebee, Insideinfo. Some collab business coming with the pals from Insomniax. TC always delivers some proper dancefloor smashers. I can go on for hours, but I think that’s enough. You can better observe our tastes in music by checking our mixes. Besides Drum & Bass I like to listen to jazz, house and pop music (both russian and foreign) as much as I can, because it’s necessary for my job. Earlier I would have never thought that I’d be able to listen to Luciano Pavarotti or Bryan Ferry (“Don’t Stop The Dance” still has a really modern vibe to it, though it was written back in 1986), but now it’s essential for me.
Vladimir: Dimension, Metrik, Tantrum Desire, Rene LaVice, ShockOne, Camo & Krooked are my D&B favourites. Apart from it I sometimes listen to hip hop: J Cole, Nas (especially his album with Damian Marley), early Beastie Boys. There’s a spot for rock and some experimental stuff like Tricky, Deep House, Tech House and Techno (Phunk Investigation, Alex Di Stefano, Umek. Sometimes it’s EDM, I usually check out Hardwell’s podcasts. All in all, when a track has some balance and quality to it – the genre doesn’t play any role.
What your dream collaboration looks like and who you’d love to have singing in your tune?
Vladimir: Culture Shock, Metrik, Urbandawn, Fred V & Grafix and Sub Focus, followed by Rita Ora, Max Marshall, Shaz Sparks on vocals. I’m also a fan of Elliphant’s voice.
Dima: It’d be interesting to work in one studio with Culture Shock, The Upbeats, Dimension, Metrik, State Of Mind. Speaking of vocals… having Riya, Shaz Sparks or Tasha Baxter singing in one of our tunes would be cool.
Let’s talk about collaboration you did with Bluescreens called “Aurora”. It was a part of an insane Viper’s Decade compilation. How did you end up making a tune together? Did you like the process and the result?
Vladimir: Brendon offered us two make a collab and we agreed. We sent them one of our demos and that’s how it all started. We were chatting a lot on Facebook. I really love their tune “Strike One (Part II)”, so I was sure we’ll deliver a really cool track together.
How long did it take you to finish “Aurora”?
Vladimir: About two weeks, I think.
How do you think, what helped you to become as sucessful as you are right now?
Dmitry: First and foremost, it has to be a systematic approach to work! All your action must be conscious and coherent, nothing must be random. You must be really patient or else it’s all bound to fail really soon. You constantly have to fight your lazy human nature in order to stop wasting your time in social networks, doing nothing. We only live once, so it’s in your own interest not to waste the time.
Apart from that, the enormous amount of experience which is only expanding, has served me well throughout the years.
When you finally start touring, is there a venue or a festival where you’d love to play the most?
Vladimir: Let It Roll and Outlook are just huge, so of course we’d love to play there some day. Speaking of venues, it’s the legendary Fabric that attracts us the most.
What advice can you give to those who are venturing into the world of music production? What one should consider when working in a duo?
Dmitry: There’s no use in trying to buy all of the possible VST or VSTi plugins that catch your eye. You should start from learning your DAW of choice in-and-out. One should realize the potential hidden in all of the built-in effects and synths, because the chances are high that you won’t need anything else to get the sound you want.
Don’t let your laziness take you ever or you are guaranteed to end up in a deadlock. It’s necesarry to always find some new techniques to learn in your neverending pursuit of that perfect sound. You might ask “Where do I even start?”. As of now, there are endless sources of information on production, both free and paid. It’s important to mention that before you don’t need to start paying for tutorial right off, as there are endless tutorials on YouTube and some of them are priceless. You just need to know how to find them.
Find a bunch of friends who are also trying their best at writing music as sharing your knowledge and experience between each other will help you a lot. If you send your tunes over to them you’ll get some substantial critique that will serve you well in the future.
Be sure to develop a unique vibe on your own – isn’t that what it’s all about?
If you’ve decided to start making an album – take your time to make a concept for it first. 13 identical tracks that people won’t be able to tell apart from each other in terms of style will probably drown in the depths of the Internet, because no one needs that. What you need is dynamics! Don’t be scared to take risks and experiment. There’s nothing bad about having different tracks in your album. You can have a couple of dancefloor smashers, some rollers and lighter tunes. You can even leave the D&B boundaries for a track or two, it’s your album after all! Thus, your audience will get to know your creativity in all its vastness, which is only for good.
If you think that the inspiration will suddenly descend from heavens – I’ve got some bad news for you. It’s much better if you plan your track in advance and stick to it, rather than just hope that everything will randomly fall in its place.
Don’t be in a hurry, when finishing the track. I know you really want to share it with the world, but let it stand the test of time. If you listen to a track two weeks after you’ve finished it and it still sounds good and doesn’t make you want to kill yourself – then you’re good to go. If it does – that’s not bad, you can still make it good if you put more effort into it, it’s not like you’re beating a dead horse. Then your tune should end up better than it was the last time, which means you did a great job! Of course, it’s easier to just write-off your unsucessful attempt, instead of giving it a second shot, but music is not about taking the easy route, right?
How can you describe the current state of the Drum & Bass scene?
Vladimir: If you take russian-speaking part of the scene we’ve got OneByOne, Concept Vision & Segment, MaxNRG, Gydra, Engage, Electrosoul System, Enei, Eastcolors. I guess the future of this part of the D&B scene is in their hands right now. Speaking of festivals – World of Drum & Bass and Pirate Station do an amazing job of bringing new people to the genre as well as keeping the dnb heads of Russian entertained.
Dmitry: I think D&B has definitely found a niche of its own. The diversity of the genre is just mindblowing, so everyone has a chance to find something that they really love, be it some mellow liquid funk tunes or insane neurofunk face-melters. I find myself attracted to the mainstream sound the most these days. Viper, Ram, Hospital and others make sure we have a plenty of material that will make people go crazy on the dancefloors. It’s not too light, not too dark, it’s perfectly paced for making people happy.
What are your plans for 2016 so far? What should we expect?
Dmitry: There’s a lot of stuff going on right now:
- We are working on new solo releases.
- There are collaboration with both russian and foreign producers currently in the works.
- We make sure to deliver lots of mixes.
- You’ll have a chance to listen to our sets in numerous clubs and venues and we are always open for booking.
UK & Europe:
And now let’s get straight into their guest mix! The tracklist is available on our Soundcloud page.